The fig tree is really strange. Did Jesus really believe that fig trees gives fruit at easter? As far as I remember this happened at easter.
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Crazy Stuff Jesus Said and Did
by Oubliette inwhen we believe that the bible really is the inspired word of god, we approach it with a certain mindset that does weird things to our thinking abilities, namely shutting them off.
due to this cognitive bias, we blindly accept that whatever we read in the bible--no matter how bizarre, outrageous or non-sensical--must be there for a good reason, even if we don't or can't understand it.
the fault of course is ours, not the bible's, and most certainly not god's!
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Jehovah's Witnesses: Italy. SCANDAL for drugs stolen
by Emilio Morelli injehovah's witnesses:scandalin naples (italy)fordrugsstolen (eritroproietina) and soldto blackin the parallel marketof the sect.. .
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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.campaniasuweb.it%2fstory%2frubati-farmaci-destinati-testimoni-geova.
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Dismissing servant
There must have been JW insiders who stole that EPO....then selling it cheap to other JW's. Maybe the arrested people are JW nurses/hospital staff?
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Can this logic be refuted?
by notsurewheretogo ini was an elder until march 2012 until i resigned.
i then stopped going to meetings in october 2012 and have enjoyed 9 months of freedom that i have found to be jouful!
i loved learning ttatt and sites like this and jwfacts.com have been excellent.. i told the elders that i needed a break and that they should not contact me unless it was a social visit and true to their word they have done that.
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Dismissing servant
So, Not Sure...please take care. If you want to fade you have to keep quiet. Don't debate JW's
Take some time reading Steven Hassans books about cult mind control.
I wish you the best
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Can this logic be refuted?
by notsurewheretogo ini was an elder until march 2012 until i resigned.
i then stopped going to meetings in october 2012 and have enjoyed 9 months of freedom that i have found to be jouful!
i loved learning ttatt and sites like this and jwfacts.com have been excellent.. i told the elders that i needed a break and that they should not contact me unless it was a social visit and true to their word they have done that.
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Dismissing servant
Your facts and logics are undsiputable.
But...those elders will just ignore it. They are are trained to ignore such questions. Maybe they will talk about new and brighter light. They will just ask you if you believe that the GB are gods channel of communication. If you are doubtful about that you will get a foot in your ...you know what.
Hundreds of people have tried this...it will not work. It will only activate the "Apostate Alarm Bells" among the elders.
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Blurred Lines Song
by LouBelle ini don't know why but that song just gets me shaking my bom bom.
i love it.
i especially like the lines "okay now he was close, tried to domesticate you, but you're an animal, baby it's in your nature".
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Dismissing servant
Shake it baby! :-D
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British zone visit from David Splane - a report from the special meeting in Glasgow
by slimboyfat inwell i went to a "special meeting" in the armadillo today where a 2 & 1/2 hour programme was relayed from london at 1pm.
apparently the letters of invitation only went out a month or so ago and not all congregations were invited.
there were 2,900 of us from around scotland.
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"They are having good success preaching to deaf people and to Chinese students. Something like 1,800 Chinese people attended the memorial in Britain. There was a special "midnight memorial" for Chinese people who work in takeaways so they could attend after their work was finished. And deaf people say JWs are the best signers in the world, much better than professionals. ""
Indeed
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MIL letter to my wife
by AggieNostic inbackground: my wife and i are inactive, we stopped attending in 2005. raised as jws, were pioneers, i was elder etc... .
our kids are in college, also inactive but are baptised.
my wife went back to college, getting her degree this month at age 48!
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Dismissing servant
Yes...as ABS stated earlier:
"Hi AggieNostic, It sounds like the typical battle between a JW's authentic persona and their cult persona according to Steve Hassan's model. I noticed the same type of behavior in a former friend of mine who is a "Spiritually Strong" (non-thinking) JW before I read Steve Hassan's book "Combatting Cult Mind Control". It appears that you and your wife could salvage your relationship with your MIL by asking her simple questions like your wife did in her text message that would help her authentic persona to come out more. "
This is really important to understand. Don't feed her cult persona by questioning the watchtower or it's dogma.....feed her authentic persona by talking to her about every-day life. Try not to talk to her about that letter.....it is obvious that it vas written by a Cult persona, not a real typical grandmother.
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Elder lost position for a poor Elvis impersonation singalong!!
by Witness 007 inafew years ago an elder at a witness gathering decided to dress sort of like elvis...i mean he had a white suit and big belt with sunglasses...called his wife pracilla etc.
big deal...he sang love me tender..etc.
all the witnesses clapped and cheered.
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preaching work?
by Crazyguy inwe as jw's have always been told by the gb that the preaching work is paramount, they imply that if your not preaching that your not going to make it to the kingdom.
so what scriptures do they use for this idea?
the only one i can think of is the one in matt.
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Dismissing servant
"They also like the blood guilt verses from Eziekiel. I am sure I spelt that wrong."
They do...but I think it was in the same chapter that God commande Ezekiel to use shit as fuel when baking his bread. I wonder what a JW-baker wold use?
There is some reasons for preaching. First, Rutherford realised that bookstores would never distribute the WT-litterature, so the only way to sell it was by door to door sale.
The preaching keeps people busy. They invest time, effort and emotion in it, that mekes them tighter connected to the org.
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My Experience at the Safeguard Your Conscience Special Assembly Day
by Vienna Angelika inso i have some interesting news about the special assembly day.
normally at the assembly, my parents pay close attention and take turns taking notes.
then after the program, they enjoy socializing for some time.
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I think this is important. Often it is emotional stuff that breaks the cognitive dissonance.....this was probably a wake up call for them.